Nate Silver Claims Vegas Is A Terrible Place For An NHL Team…Ballgame’s Counterpoint

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FivethirtyeightThere ought to be more NHL teams in Canada, which has only seven of the 30 NHL franchises despite having about as many hockey fans as the United States.

And there perhaps ought to be fewer in midsize American markets, especially those far from the Canadian border. According to my previous research, the six current NHL markets with the fewest number of hockey fans are Nashville, Miami, Raleigh, Columbus, Phoenix and Tampa. Those franchises lost a collective $51 million in 2013-14, according to Forbes.

Now there’s momentum to place an NHL expansion team in Las Vegas, another idea that makes little sense.

Our 2013 analysis estimated that there are just 91,000 NHL fans in metro Las Vegas. That’s tiny even by comparison to the six smallest NHL markets that I mentioned before, which have between 146,000 (Nashville) and 279,000 (Tampa) hockey fans. And it’s well below Seattle’s 241,000 or Quebec City’s 530,000 fans.

But here’s another reason to be skeptical about Las Vegas: The city has had several professional sports franchises (albeit none from the four or five largest North American sports leagues), and it hasn’t supported them very well.

Consider that the city’s Triple-A baseball franchise, the Las Vegas 51s of the Pacific Coast League, had the lowest attendance in the PCL last year.

Or that the city’s professional hockey franchise, the Las Vegas Wranglers of the ECHL, disbanded earlier this year after years of middling attendance and an inability to find a suitable home arena.

The Las Vegas Gladiators of the Arena Football League were relocated to Cleveland in 2007 after five seasons of attendance well below AFL averages. Las Vegas has a new AFL team this season, the Las Vegas Outlaws, but their attendance was poor in their first two games.

You could make an optimist’s case for the NHL in Las Vegas. The number of fans will grow, undoubtedly, if the league places a franchise there. The city gets a lot of tourists (it has about 150,000 hotel rooms), which adds to the functional size of its population.1 And Las Vegas’s population is growing, although the rate of growth has slowed since the housing bust.

But it’s asking a lot for Las Vegas to support a major league team when it’s struggled to support pretty much every minor league team that’s tried to play there. If the city has some positives, it also has some negatives, like irregular working hours, middling public transit and abundant competition for the entertainment dollar, which may depress sports attendance.

To their credit, the backers of the Las Vegas NHL franchise, after a monthslong campaign, have gotten commitments from about 11,000 would-be season ticket holders. That sounds impressive until you consider that the Winnipeg Jets sold out their entire allotment of 13,000 season tickets in 17 minutes after the Atlanta Thrashers were relocated there in 2011. Hockey’s a bit more popular on the frozen tundra than in the middle of the desert.

There is a much better case for an NBA team in Las Vegas. NBA avidity is already well above average there, based on the number of Google searches for NBA-related topics. The NBA, unlike the NHL, has had success in similar markets, like San Antonio and Oklahoma City. And the only sports team that’s consistently been a good draw in Las Vegas is a basketball team: The UNLV Runnin’ Rebels averaged almost 14,000 fans per game from 2009-10 through 2013-14.2

I know thats a lot to read but I couldn’t really cut it down. The crux of Silver’s argument is that there should be more teams in Canada/Seattle, Vegas doesn’t have many hockey fans in general and Vegas doesn’t support their minor league teams. I agree with him that more teams should be in Canada. The Panthers, Coyotes and Lightning should all relocate to Canada/Seattle. Silver argues that Vegas is no different than those cities. While he’s correct in that Vegas is not a ‘hockey town’, Vegas is a vastly different city than Phoenix.

Tourism and corporate tickets alone could keep attendance up. Hotels would buy season tickets and boxes and give them to high rollers or hold contests for them. People (myself included) from other NHL cities would plan their Vegas trips around when their team was playing there and go to the game while in town. They could petition Bettman to try to make sure all their home games are played Thursday-Sunday. While I admit the building might not be sold out every night but you’d never see an empty arena like you do in Florida. Plus, the team would have an incredible home record. Every team coming into play them will be partying the night before. They’d never be playing against a fully ‘healthy’ team.

The other thing that Silver doesn’t mention is that this would be the first chance for a team from the major four sports to take advantage of legal sports betting. They could put betting kiosks in the arena like they do for soccer in Europe. Have some type of live betting from your seat. The possibilities are endless. Then, assuming that goes well, it can be used in the fight to make sports betting legal all across the country. I guarantee that if the Vegas NHL team can show that it’s making money from people betting in the arena all the other leagues will change their minds regarding gambling.

Lastly, I just don’t buy the argument that because Vegas doesn’t support minor league teams they wouldn’t support an NHL team. Very few minor league teams are greatly supported. UNLV is essentially the ‘major league’ team in Vegas and they sell out every game. Let the Vegas experiment commence.

– Ballgame

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